WARNING- Disturbing Content
From: Dr Andrew Jones
Author: Veterinary Secrets Revealed
Website: https://drjonesnaturalpet.com
Re: WARNING: Disturbing Content
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Hello everyone- it’s Monday.
I had one of those CRAZY weekends on Call-
Sick animals ALL over the place.
Most clients are great- and very gracious.
I saw a few sick dogs and cats- that are now at the clinic on IV Fluids- and many, many phone calls.
One phone call in particular stood out.
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The loser that should NEVER own a pet
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Here is one Phone Call..’
“Hello, this is Dr Jones.”
Client: “Ya – what does it cost to kill my cats?”
Excuse me?
Client: “They have pus coming out of their eyes, they ain’t eating, and I don’t want them”
Me: Well you can bring them in on emergency, and I can euthanize them.
Client: “Ahh, God Damn F***ng Vets – All you want is mo**ney.”
Me: So – will you be bringing in your cats, sir?
Client: “NOT if it costs Mo***ney”
Me: Well you can call the SPCA – they may help you.
Client: “Don’t waste my time- I’ll do it myself..”
Me: Well sir – I can’t let you do this, unless it is determined that your cats are really suffering, – the euthanasia must be done in a humane way.
——Phone Goes Dead——–
I called the number back, and I got the pay phone at a gas station.
So…what do you do?
Not a lot.
What happened to the cats?
I don’t know, but I can only speculate.
BUT what do I think?
Well, that some people DON’T deserve to have pets.
That there NEEDS to be STRONGER LAWS around animal ownership, cruelty and health care.
That I am grateful for many of the caring, good animal guardians out there-
MOST people really do care for their pets.
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P.S. Feel Free to make suggestions on my Blog about what to do about the above LOSER.
Comment below.
It’s Your Pet. Heal Them At Home!
Best Wishes,
Dr Andrew Jones, DVM
I belong to a rescue organization where people make this type of call often. What we do is tell them to surrender the animals to us. In the meantime, we call the animal control officer,sometimes a police officer will come as well. When the murdering scum get there with the animals,we have them surrender the animals to us via signature. The police/animal control person then goes into action. This is the only way to assure that the animals are safe.
Ownership
Do we need to have license to own a pet?? No!! There will always be people who for whatever reason are cruel, don’t understand humanity, just plain are the scum of the world. Yes, we don’t like to see our animals of the world suffer but there will always be evil in the world along with all the beautiful people that care for and love the animals of the world. Our pets are the most precious for those of us who are single. They love us unconditionally and are the ones we in turn love and care for. They become our partners in life as we have ups and downs. They know when to comfort us. It is sad the others of the world don’t have that compassion and love that is offered to them wihtout any cost or need for return.
I agree..Some people do not deserve to own pets.hasn’t this loser heard about desexing his naimals to prevent unwanted litters??
In Australia, our RSPCA would be right onto this person for the neglect of his pets. (I use that word loosely, for he doesn’t seem to treat them as such). We have a high regard for our pets and treat them with the respect they deserve although , sadly there are people like this who don’t seem to care. I am a devoted animal lover and it makes me very sad to hear of cases like this.
What did you do?????
As awful as the situation is with this guy and his sick cats, the reality is that he feels powerless, overwhelmed, and I would guess guilty too.
I would suggest finding a way to find commpasssion for the him and his animals. Life is not fair and most of us don’t know how to deal with that truth and aren’t taught how to think creatively in crisis situations.
I am grateful that I have a vet who doesn’t charge for euthanasia. He believes that you are already traumatized by losing your beloved friend, why add to it.
One of my mentors always says “find the peace inside yourself in all situations”.
Chris
Andrew,
It is a pity the call could not have been traced & if it had been found that the owner had killed the cats in an inhumane way then the full force of the law should come down on them. They should never be able to own an animal again. The laws regarding animals are not strong enough. We have the R.S.P.C.A here & they do some great work finding people that illtreat animals & they get them to court & they get a slap on the wrist which makes pet lovers here so angry.
I had to have my beautiful cat put to sleep 2 years ago this month as she had a stroke & then a heart attack & as she had lost all quality of life as she knew it I had to make that decission after she had been in the hospital 5 days.I stayed with her while it was done& I can still see her beautiful eyes looking at me but I knew there was nothing the vet could do for her as he tried so hard to save her. It nearly broke my heart & I still miss her so much. I have 3 little dogs that also still miss her one in paricular more so that the other 2 & you come across creatures like this.
How can these people live with themselves.How do they treat children & other people if they are like this.
I am so angry about people who do this sort of thing & I just think they will have to make the laws much stronger for cruelty to Animals. I would have my dogs over this person anytime & I hope that one day he may be caught for what he was obviously going to do. He just disgusts me & people like him.
Kindest regards,
Yvonne
Well they should euthanize that bastard, please
forgive my english but that makes me so mad
to hear someone care that little about a life.
I have two cats that I love with all my heart
and to hear someone do and say that. They just
need to take him out of the gene pool…
J. Wilkinson
I have owned a cat that was in a similar situation where it had pus coming from it eyes and not eating much. I took it to the vet and for $90 I found the cat suffered from a hay fever like allergy and blocked sinus. There was no need to euthanize the cat just a tube shove up its nose (done by the vet to drain the sinus) a course of antihistamine for the allergy and antibiotics for the sinus infection. This cat lived for another 18 years before passing over due to natural causes.
As for the redneck loser maybe you should have suggested that the idiot hand them over to an animal welfare shelter or cattery that you know of and say they will do it for nothing.
By the way a cattery is not some sinister cat processing factory, it is a boarding home for cats.
Knowing that some people will kill their pets inhumanely, I’m thinking when someone like that calls, it’s best to offer to take the animals without charging them any money and look at it as doing what’s best for the animals.
The cats may not need to be euthanized, just needing a good vet to take a look at them and figure out what’s wrong. The only way to know for sure is to have them brought in and the owner gives them up.
It’s true that some people have no business having pets of any kind. Until we have laws that protect these innocent precious animals from cruel/neglectful parents, we have to do whatever we can in our power to help them. Even if that means asking them to bring them to us so we can do the right thing for them.
Action is mandatory whenever any animal is abused. Contact local law enforcement. Provide details including time, what was said, distinguishing vocal tones, name of the gas station if you have it, anything which may help identify the perpetrator. The police will then be able to go to the gas station or locale of the pay phone and begin the process of tracking down this character and investigating his actions for further action and hopefully criminal charges.
All that it takes for bad things to go unpunished is for good people to do nothing…Thanks Dr. Jones for your concern for all animals.
MRB
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Adopt a Dog, Save a Life
By the way if Dr Andrew Jones does not mind I would like to show a link to a petition for people to sign, which is for a good cause. Although not cat related it is just as important. This involves a mining company wanting to mine an environmentally sensitive area that was being protected by the late Steve Irwin, for further information please go to this site http://www.savestevesplace.com or http://www.australiazoo.com.au
We all need to write to our councillors, mayors, whoever governs in our area, and tell them we need tough animal cruelty laws. It’s time to replace pathetic slap on the wrist now in effect.
I four one think that anyone that could hurt an animal should have the same thing done to them or worse. I was brought up to believe that an aniaml is part of your family for its entire life no matter what.
I would have called the police immediately and
they could have quickly figured out where that
pay phone was. If it was in or near any kind of
store, bar,etc, they may have been able to find the person. If there were cameras they may even
have gotten a vehicle tag.
I find this more than troubling; couldn’t you
let him drop off the cats and call the spca yourself in that situation to prevent abuse?
Or once you got the guy in and told him you’d do
it for free, you could have signaled for your
assistants to alert the authorities if there was
a clear case of animal neglect. You still would
not have gone back on your word to euthanize them
for free and the guy might just get a fine to teach him a lesson. Now all that happened is two
extremely sick, hurting animals probably faced a fate that neither of us would ever want to even think about much less witness or worse be subjected to. And generally anyone who treats
their animals in such a manner – chances are their
spouse and children are often subjected to cruelty as well.
Re: LOSER
I would have talked to him in a manner of helping him, and told a lie.Like, “Tell me where the cats are and I would more than be happy to come pick them up, at no cost to you.” And then I would have calledthe local SPCA and told them the story, and then they could have prosecuted the “LOSER”.
What I see as the most important aspect in this disturbing event is not the vulgar man who made it painfully obvious he should never be gifted the responsibility for any living creature, and not the veterinarian who’s life’s mission is to aid in the healing and maintenance of God’s creatures and has no choice but to have contact with the type of people no one in their right mind would ever consider the time of day for. To me the most important part of this event is the well being of the sick animals, the cats, is it not?? There WAS a solution in this story, but because the focus was placed on what “should be” or “could be” or “needs to be”, the ones who paid the ultimate price were the innocent victims in this story, the cats. There is no law or punishment that will change the vulgar man into the type of person that deserves pets, of course there NEEDS to be, but there isn’t. I am not nearly as disappointed in this vulgar man as I am in the veterinarian… I wouldn’t expect anything less from the vulgar man with the mentality and heartlessness who spoke as he did about the care of the cats. What I WOULD expect is a veterinarian, upon realizing the type of person he is in contact with, making decisions based on the ultimate well being of the animals FIRST, and the repercussions to the person SECOND. That was obviously not done in this case, and that is the most upsetting to me. Dr. Jones could have, would have, and SHOULD have made the very same point in this story in regard to there “needing to be tougher laws” by very simply telling the piece of crap man to deliver the cats to the office immediately, upon arrival logging the license plate and/or person to report to the proper authorities, and tending to the cats in a humane way. It is very ironic to me to hear the vet say “Well sir – I can’t let you do this, unless it is determined that your cats are really suffering, – the euthanasia must be done in a humane way.” because he absolutely LET the man do what he did. BOTH of the men in this story had responsibilities to these creatures and BOTH of these men should be held accountable. A VERY sad story indeed.
I would have told the man to gather his cats and bring them to the ER….I would tell him he needs to surrender the cats to the ER and at that point if upon exam they do need euthenasia…administer at that time. As a Dr/HUMAN… can’t you take it upon yourself to do what the right thing is to do…..it does all come down to money.
Lord knows what that person did to kill the cats…
It’s tough because people just don’t have money these days to go to the Dr themselves, let alone take care of animals…..
Here in the US there’s something where a parent can drop off a child at, a church, fire staion or police station…no questions asked…..
The same thing should be available for animals.
I find it surprising that someone like this would even bother to call a vet. However, if I were in your shoes, Dr. Jones, I would have tried to encourage this person to bring the cats in and agree to turn them over to you, no charge. I would also try to find out where he got the cats in the first place. Does he have an intact cat at home that is constantly giving birth to kittens that he doesn’t want? Maybe you could get him to turn her over, as well. I really doubt that he would agree to pay to have the cat spayed, considering his attitude, but you could try.
It really is a damned shame how many people treat their animals, and their children, as well. We don’t need a license or any special training to become a parent or an owner of a dog or cat or horse or any other animal. I’ve been involved with animals for a long time and have seen many people owning animals who I thought had no business doing so. This was most obvious in owners of horses, especially race horses. People who visit the track for sport and win a few bucks begin to think that maybe owning a racehorse is a good investment. What they don’t realize is just how much of an investment this is; they only see the initial price of purchasing the horse. And only one horse can win each race. The same thing happens with all these people who get into breeding dogs (or any other animal, for that matter) for profit. They don’t want to put a dime into caring for the animals, just want to reap the profits from selling their offspring. There recently was a case in Pennsylvania in which two brothers shot and killed all 80 of their breeding dogs and threw their bodies on a compost heap, because they had been warned that the dogs needed veterinary care. They decided they would rather get out of the business than put a dime into it. And the worst part of this story – they did not do anything illegal!!! So, they are allowed to continue with their lives as if nothing has happened.
I’m surprised you didn’t just tell him to bring them in and you would be happy to euthanize them at no cost to him…that way you at least could have seen the animals, rescued those that you could and only put down the hopeless one/ones.
I’m kind of shocked you didn’t, just to get them out of this loser’s hands. ‘Tis a puzzlement to me…
I may get flack for this but, don’t we have enough “laws” dictating our lives? And what good do they really do? I believe most people do NOT need laws to tell them how to live. People are going to be shameful beings no matter what laws are being enforced in the land. I agree, some people should never have pets… even children! But what can we do? These kinds of people will keep having pets and children they should never have. Should we become a police state/country/world dictating every movement or thought of our lives? I would like to live on another planet if it ever came to that! If I were a vet receiving a call like the one you got, I would have offered to come and get the kitties and take them away from the man. I would have tried to diffuse his temper, some how, and let him know he wasn’t going to be penalized in any way….just to get the kitties to a safe place. I would have advised him to think twice about ever having a pet again. It may be a burden to take care of the kitties, but at least my conscious would not have bothered me. Not saying anything about the way you handled the situation, Dr. Andrew! Hindsight being 20/20 and all that!!! I don’t know how I would have reacted right in the midst of the situation! Thanks for making me think about how I’d react to something like this!
I agree that this so-called human being needs to be taken out of the “gene pool himself” because we all know what he did to those 2 poor cats inhumanely. Have compassion for someone like that? Not even – that is where abuse stems from first animal, then child, then adult – women. Sometimes there is only so much a vet can do or give as to why he didn’t just have him bring the cats in to his clinic at no charge. We just found a 5 month old rottie pup that someone had thrown out of a car as his hip was bruised where he landed, had a tremendous urinary tract infection, didn’t know how to eat dog food or play, was very malnutritioned, had broken down one ear where they had been pulling him around with it, he was afraid of hands & water, but now 5 weeks later he is doing much better, is now healthy, knows that there are gentle & loving hands, we still have a long way to go before he could be adoptable but he is going to be a good little dog – wish we could get our hands on who abused him! But there will always be mean people in the world who don’t know how and don’t care how they treat a dog or cat or other animals – because to those kinds of people they are just that – “ANIMALS” – and don’t deserve nice treatment. Those people don’t think or realize that “animals have feelings too and do know what kindness and love is”. I won’t go so far as to give animals human rights, but I do want them protected against any form of abuse, because I have loved and lost every type of animal – cats, dogs, horses, cattle & milk cows, and even pet large hogs that all meant a lot to me over the years, plus a few others. (Yeah, I grew up on a farm). Well, enough – protect the animals and put the abusers in jail – give them what they do to the animal they abused – see how they like it!!
people like this should not even own a fish. this is the kind of person that puts money before life. so I think that what he needs is the same kind of treatment let him get so very sick and say ok now we kill you because you are sick . and I bet you anything that even if there was a free place this loser could take this cats he would say I don’t want to waste his gas.The sad fact is the laws need to be stronger and people like this know this sad fact.
DR. JONES,
I DO RESCUE FROM MY HOME, I DON’T HAVE A CLINIC JUST SOME NATURAL KNOWLEDGE AND A HEART TO HELP.
WHY DIDN’T YOU TELL THE MAN TO BRING THE CATS IN AND THEN YOU COULD HAVE EVALUTATED THEM AND GIVEN THEM HELP. I DO THINK THAT THIS WORLD IS MONEY DRIVEN, NO ONE WILL DO ANYTHING ANYMORE FROM THE HEART, ALWAYS THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR. I INFURIATES ME TO THINK THAT THESE CATS COULD HAVE BEEN HELPED IF ONLY WE WOULD HAVE FORGOTTEN ABOUT OURSELVES. YOU COULD ALSO HAVE GIVEN HIM SOME FREE HOMEOPATHIC ADVISE. WHICH MAYBE WOULD HAVE HELPED THE CATS AND SAVED THEIR LIVES.
NOW WHO KNOWS WHAT HE DID TO THEM.
Let’s not lay more blame and name-calling on this guy. We don’t know him, we don’t know his situation. People who want pets but run into hard times (who else has been there?) get so frustrated with not having enough money to go around, and, let’s face it – vet expenses are high. This man may very well have been a good pet owner – but his money may have run out, so bit by bit his world is falling down around his ears, and now his cats are sick and he can’t do a darn thing about it. Bottom line is – you just don’t know!!!!! YES! There are some people who shouldn’t even own a fish, but we don’t know if this guy needs to be put in that catagory, based on one phone call. Obviously he cared enough to try to go to a public phone booth and look up a vet’s number and try to make the call in the first place. Doesn’t that say something?
It’s not more laws we need. What we need is prices to come down so even people with very few resources can own and love a pet – and take proper care of it.
MY first thought is do to him what he does to his animals.
The law is not tough enough and the fines a pittence. When I see some of the cases on TV, my comments wouldn’t be printable.
The R.S.P.C.A ‘s hands are tied in so many cases and they take so long to go to court and in the mean time they have the expense of looking after the animals and they can not be adopted to loving caring people.
Something has to be done.
Someone should get this creep – and sterilze him using the ‘Bobbitt’ method. ‘People’ like this are a waste of good air. When we adopted our cat, the lady asked for references and WHO my vet was -because within 2 weeks, Abby had to had a physical. They could take possession of my new baby if I did not meet the requirements. I have always taken good care of my babies – and this one already rules the roost. I truly believe that we reap what we sow….if he harms the cats – GOD will take care of him (not soon enough for me). What a scum bag!!! Why didn’t the creep call the ASPCA? …..he probably would have went to jail when they saw the condition the cats were already in…poor things. Hope he doesn’t have children. This really irks me to no END. Hope he gets what he deserves…SOON. Deb
We had to have our elderly cat Tucker put to sleep a couple of years ago. We agonized over the decision and all of us cried but we knew he was suffering and wouldn’t get better. Our vet send a sympathy card. I can’t imagine anyone being casual about having a pet put to sleep. Our pets are known as our “furry babies.” Too bad people don’t have to take a class before they can become pet parents.
Could there be a way to trace the call to see where it came from? Maybe there was a camera somewhere in range to get this DIRT BAG’S picture! Then, maybe, someone would recognize this PIECE OF FILTH and the CMP or Canadian SPCA could find him and make puss come out of HIS EYES! There is no reason for this type of piece of s–it to waste oxygen! It seems as though God would interven in a matter like this and strike his ass down before he could let these poor kittens gtet in his shape to start with. You were sure a lot nicer than I would have been if I had taken the call, but I realize you are a professional and professionally you can’t talk to people the way you would some time like to, I BET you would like to have told him an ear full. BLESS YOU DR. JONES, YOUR THE BEST FRIEND AN ANIMAL COULD HAVE!!! And dont worry, This Rotten Piece of Filth will get what’s coming to him–10 Fold*
We need to change legislation to make it as risky to harm an animal as it is to harm a child. There are situations where when a child is unwanted, what’s the law about being able to drop it at a hospital no questions asked? I would rather have an animal dumped off somewhere it will receive care, no questions asked, rather than wonder what became of it because that wasn’t an option like Doctor Andrew probably is right now.
THE BEST FRIEND AN ANIMAL COULD HAVE- — I like That (Thanks Beki nowak ) Between a Rock and a Hard place – do if yo… And Andrew ( after all I call my Vet first name ) ( oopps ) Great work – shitt hapens… Cool books ! saved heaps of $$$$$ ! as they say in Dutch : TE GEK !
Paul – New Zealand
I am so disgusted by this gentlemen whom says he is a pet owner. He doesn’t deserve to own anything. I don’t know where we go to make tougher laws to fight for these animals. They were born into this world and cannot control the family situation they were taken into. However, when it gets to a point someone wants to kill a pet for minor medical issues it makes me ill. This is another reason I cannot watch animal planet anymore. Myself owning a cat and dog cannot understand how you can be so cruel to an animal that only wants love from you & gives you more love than another human can. I cannot understand it & I wish their was more we could do to help these animals whom cannot fight for themselves. Someone needs to take a step and fight for them.
wow. this person was so blunt. he treats his animals like stuffed animals. too bad you can’t report animal abuse and like child abuse.
…only in a perfect world.
I love what Chris in #4 says. Chris sounds like a super person, and so does Chris’s vet! Compassion first–for the animals, and (hard as it is) for the “loser”. After you have had so many phone calls and so many abused animals brought in, and so many cases weighing on you, I’m sure your mind leapt to the worst-case scenario. This in addition to the tone the undoubtedly stressed, challenged and perhaps compassion-limited man took, probably led to your reply.
I do wish you’d had him bring the kittens to you, no charge. If nothing else, you could have passed them on to the local rescue after treating them naturalistically. The problem might have been very easily resolved with minimal care. It sounds like both of you were very stressed at that point in your respective days.
The kittens’ problem sounds identical to one I had with a kitten I had adopted in 2000. She had gained weight to become a little four-pounder and suddenly stopped eating, losing weight rapidly. AND her eyes got runny! Oh god! I was in a panic! I took her to my vet!
The cure? Eye/nose drops, administered BID, to relieve the congestion in her sinuses and nasal passages (which had led to the lack of appetite, because cats’ appetite “leads” with the nose). A lovely, economical solution for what could have been a life-threatening problem.
My beautiful Emma is now eleven pounds and eight years old. I am so blessed to have her and my other four cats in my life. Sometimes they are the only ones keeping me from total depression and totally giving up on living.
We must remember it is still within the collective memory of some families to drown “surplus” kittens because they did not have neutering and spaying in the bad ol’ days. It was perhaps “kinder” than letting them starve or die of sickness.
Nowadays, thank god, we can neuter and spay feral cats and, with regular feeding, set them loose in barns or other places where rodent control is needed! We can sponsor spaying and neutering for the cats of poor people, so they, too, can enjoy animal companionship.
Let us help each other as much as we can. Biting our tongues, sometimes, if we have to. The more we help judiciously (keeping animals from harm, but keeping them with people who love them, even when they can’t afford the best food and surroundings) the more we can help animals. And isn’t that our goal?